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  • #28429
    phillyblues
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      Yesterday I took a dog walk down to my local park box trail which I just haven’t been able to monitor much since late May. I cleaned a lot of sparrows out to get it going and swallows generally take all the boxes. There is a box I did not put up down there that someone unfortunately tacked onto a tree which we all know is not ideal. In the spring I ripped out several sparrow nests in it and while I was down there I opened it expecting to rip out another one. However, to my surprise and delight when I opened it there was a pine needle nest in there and brand new hatchlings in there! Then I saw the two adult bluebirds when I closed the box up. Figures they pick this box right? Anyways, is there anything I should do to keep them safer? I have had such bad luck lately I fee like just leaving things alone. Take a look at the photos and let me know if I should try anything on the small tree to prevent predators? I only see three babies from my photo so wonder if something already took eggs. Could be hidden though.

      #28430
      phillyblues
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        Bluebird nest

        #28431
        phillyblues
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          Box on tree

          #28432
          AIH
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            I don’t really have any good advice. But aside from it being a very poor idea for a nest box installation, it isn’t your nest box, correct? All things considered, I would leave it alone.

            If you happened to meet the person who put up the box, you could have a talk. Even if that talk occurred today, with the nestlings, I think I would still leave it alone.

            - Ira / Coastal NW Florida

            #28433
            tamsea
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              The only thing you can do is put a predator guard around the tree using some sort of aluminum/metal that you wrap around the tree. It’s been done before, I’m just not sure exactly what people have used. I’ll look it up.
              Oh, I just thought of another solution and that is to put up a pole about 5 ft away from that tree where nothing can drop down on it. Put it right in front of where the house was on the tree and maybe at the same height. You would have to wait there and see if the bluebirds accepted it but I’m really almost positive they would.
              Otherwise you’re just going to have to let it be and hope for the best. Predation is very likely but there are people that have boxes on trees that have successfulness nestings so it may work.

              • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by tamsea.

              Tammy

              #28435
              phillyblues
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                Thanks! The pole idea is a good one but since this is a public park I would be pushing my luck to put a pole up in that space because the grounds crews would probably mowit over or remove it. I do have a contact but the crew might forget and remove it. Stinks! Any kind of baffle idea welcome.

                #28437
                phillyblues
                Participant

                  Should I attach a wire mesh predator guard on the front?

                  #28440
                  phillyblues
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                    #28441
                    phillyblues
                    Participant

                      Hope this is a helps. Couldn’t resist doing something to deter predators

                      #28442
                      phillyblues
                      Participant

                        So far so good. Mom has no problem with the guard in place.

                        #28447
                        tamsea
                        Moderator

                          Mowing is a dilemma. I’ll see if I can find some info on wrapping a tree trunk.

                          Tammy

                          #28449
                          tamsea
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                            I’ve never seen this idea but it makes sense. It used plastic sheeting. https://nestwatch.org/blog/how-to-protect-tree-mounted-nest-boxes-from-snakes/

                            Tammy

                            #28466
                            phillyblues
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                              Well whatever happened this nest didn’t work out. Haven’t looked in the box yet but i have been by several times with no adults in sight. Hopefully I didn’t scare them off with the predator guard but I did see the female going in and out after I installed it but that was over a week ago. Scared to open it. Man what a dud year. No luck.

                              #28470
                              tamsea
                              Moderator

                                Bummer! Were they in there when you attached the wire mesh to the front? They are so vulnerable to all types of critters. Raccoons, squirrels, mice, snakes, cats. I think the wire mesh was a decent idea. It couldn’t have hurt anything. I don’t think they are very helpful normally but in this situation it was worth a try!! Sorry, that they didn’t make it.

                                Tammy

                                #28473
                                phillyblues
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                                  I think i could hear them when I attached the guard and saw the mom a couple days later coming out.

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