Carol – Mid-Mo.

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  • in reply to: Barn Swallows #2354
    Carol – Mid-Mo.
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      Sounds like you have a good set up of houses – however, I would question the one house which you have facing west, as this is facing the hot sun in the summertime. Might be okay for the 1st nesting. I believe your boxes facing southeast are much better – here in Mid-Missouri I believe SE is away from prevailing winds, which is what is recommended – mine are all facing SE. I have had no experience with anything other than wooden boxes (cedar, which have lasted 8+ years & still going) – this “indestructible plastic” box you have – does it not get terribly hot? If you have your boxes up early (January of February) I bet those blues will be scouting them next season. Good luck.

      in reply to: Second nesting update #2343
      Carol – Mid-Mo.
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        Usually she will start incubating the same day as last egg or the next day – all are different. Yes, a heat shield will help, as our Missouri summers can be very hot – my boxes are in full sun so I always put on shields after the very first nesting. Good luck.

        in reply to: Barn Swallows #2342
        Carol – Mid-Mo.
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          Bob, I live in west central Missouri, and I believe you could have a nesting of blues yet. In looking back at my records of 8 previous seasons, I have had a few nestings in late June & early July on occasion. It is getting a little late, but my first successful hatching of blues just fledged on this past Tuesday, so I am keeping my fingers crossed for another nest. But they have to get this batch of young ones trained yet and that could take another week or two. I will know in a few days if they are interested in building again. Bob luck – if you are seeing blues, you really need to figure out why they are not coming there. Tell us a little about your box locations. P.S. Aren’t those barn swallows a pain & messy when they like to build right outside your door, etc.

          in reply to: Got Babies! #2291
          Carol – Mid-Mo.
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            I’m getting ready to do a mail order for 5,000 worms – the first order in March was 10,000 ($52 including shipping which always comes 2nd day) and I will be out in about a week with the newly fledged blues. Even if they do not have a 2nd nesting, this family of 7 will be back and stay around all winter here in mid-Missouri. What a sight it is to see those parents feed those worms like an assembly line when those babies are in the box – really perks you up!

            in reply to: Empty nest #2290
            Carol – Mid-Mo.
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              You should have a chance for a 2nd nesting. My babies fledged yesterday and I cleaned out box and it is ready for them to go again. They are kind of an odd couple, get started late, plus build 2 or 3 extra nests, etc. I’m hoping for a 2nd. Congrats on your fledgling everyone.

              in reply to: Meal feeder suggested by bluebird nut #2218
              Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                I have a cage feeder like that one and it works great – I have had it so long that I don’t remember if it took some time or not. Don’t remove the top, as that defeats the purpose of the feeder, which is to exclude the large birds. I believe they will get the hang of it – give them some time – they won’t want to miss out on those tasty worms, but don’t feed them outside the feeder – make them go in.

                in reply to: Second nesting has begun! #2217
                Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                  Yes, good luck. My first nest of babies is due to hatch about next Tuesday, and we are going out of state so I will probably miss it. They were sooooo slow to get going this year and first nest of 5 eggs the female I believe was killed or died after about 2 days of incubation. But papa was quick to find another gal. I have no idea if they will try another nesting, but sure hope so, as my previous papa & 3 different mates always had 3 clutches each year over a period of 6 seasons. Of course, our Missouri weather this year has been crazy, and I’m kind of glad they did not get in on all that cold, wet weather we had in May.

                  in reply to: A confluence of bad events #2210
                  Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                    Pierced or cracked – really hard to determine. I don’t believe anyone has actually witnessed this occurrence, if so – let’s hear it (whether they are pierced after thrown on ground or vise-versa). Unless it was really like broken to pieces or smashed, I would still say wren – anything else would probably eat them.

                    in reply to: A confluence of bad events #2207
                    Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                      That pierced egg on the ground was surely work of a house wren. Last year I had 4 eggs in a box which I was not aware of, and by the time I was able to get another wren guard up, a wren had pierced & thrown out 3 of the 4 eggs on the ground. That lone egg was incubated and did fledge. In regard to the robin, it couldn’t get in & probably would not try, since they are not cavity nesters. They are curious like all other birds and will sit atop of anything for a while. Robins & bluebirds are both members of the Thrush species of birds, like cousins, and do cohabit quite well usually. Good luck – keep us informed.

                      in reply to: Should I install a wren guard? #2206
                      Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                        Hugh, yes I believe you need to try to get her to accept the wren guard; however, as you said it would have been better to install it after the 1st or 2nd egg was laid, prior to incubation. Since you put a hinged guard on the Gilwood box (which is exactly what we did at first – then made it a top opener as well as a front opener later) I would give her a little time. Catch her some time when she is taking a break from incubating & try putting it down. If she doesn’t accept it after she is back at the nest for 10-15 minutes, then put it back up. I have never had a female refuse the spooker or wren guard, but then I always have them up prior to incubation. Good luck – let us know how this plays out. REMINDER – there needs to be a minimum of 2 1/2″ (3″ is better) between the actual hole & the guard to allow for an easy swoop into the box. Do you have spooker & guard up at the other box which has 3 eggs? Just because you don’t see these predators doesn’t mean there are not around – it’s up to us landlords to protect the nest, since we invited the birds in.

                        in reply to: One bright spot in an otherwise depressing day… #2173
                        Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                          Sorry, Cher – I always worry about leaving for a few days during nesting season, but we have to live our own lives. Glad you got cheered up by seeing the baby Robin hatch – I have never witnessed this. Hope the rest of the season goes better.

                          in reply to: He finally found a female! #2161
                          Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                            Nice picture, Donna. What is it with these birds starting a nest in box and then switch to a different one? My first pair (had papa 6 years with about 3 different females) always finished the nest which they began & laid the eggs in it. The 2 years with my current couple they built 2 or 3 complete nests in different boxes before choosing one. Of course, this cuts down on available true time, and they just have 2 nestings instead of 3 like my first 6 years. All are different I guess!

                            in reply to: Mystery disaster! #2157
                            Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                              Oh, Evie – that is so sad. When you said you actually had a BB egg I was thrilled for you. Can’t imagine about this male dying – do you think maybe it was the original male which you said was not around, and he was sick or something? You are probably right about mama abandoning this nest/egg, since she has no mate. Very Sad indeed. But don’t give up – remember this is true nature at work (I guess).

                              in reply to: Bluebird family returns #2147
                              Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                                Always cool to see your fledglings return to “home” area & glad you have another nest. Is it the same parents, I’m assuming it is. Some fledglings actually help feed their siblings, but I have never had this happen – parents usually chase them off once others hatch to protect food supply. Just like us humans telling our children “time to grow up & be on your own!”

                                in reply to: Mystery disaster! #2146
                                Carol – Mid-Mo.
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                                  Great – get that baffle ready and don’t forget the sparrow spooker & wren guard if those are needed (remember you don’t always see these sly things). I would think a spooker for sure, since you had seen those around, and those house wrens are VERY sly.

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